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Four numbers overdue over 20 draws - ido - 02-10-2011 09:57 PM
Hi All,
I simply wondered if this happened ever before?
In the same time 3 of the extreme overduers form the triplet
27,28,29 and this triplet indeed has in course it's Maximal Historical overdue
for a single appearance.
May we expect a pair at least to appear from this strange
group 1,27,28,29??
RE: Four numbers overdue over 20 draws - Frank - 02-11-2011 02:06 AM
(02-10-2011 09:57 PM)ido Wrote: Hi All,
I simply wondered if this happened ever before?
In the same time 3 of the extreme overduers form the triplet
27,28,29 and this triplet indeed has in course it's Maximal Historical overdue
for a single appearance.
May we expect a pair at least to appear from this strange
group 1,27,28,29??
Ido, number 29 was drawn last night (as bonus) so is not overdue. Number 27 is only 2.43 times overdue , and the triple has been drawn previously, so why is it a "Maximal Historic Overdue "?
There are 3276 missing triples which by definition are more overdue than 27,28,29.
The top single overdues 1, 23 and 28 actually form a missing triple so I would ask the same question for this triple.
RE: Four numbers overdue over 20 draws - ido - 02-11-2011 02:57 AM
(02-11-2011 02:06 AM)Frank Wrote: Ido, number 29 was drawn last night (as bonus) so is not overdue. Number 27 is only 2.43 times overdue , and the triple has been drawn previously, so why is it a "Maximal Historic Overdue "?Hi Frank,
There are 3276 missing triples which by definition are more overdue than 27,28,29.
The top single overdues 1, 23 and 28 actually form a missing triple so I would ask the same question for this triple.
I've controlled the triplet for appearance of a single(wathever from the 3 numbers) number in the main draw and it's current overdue of 20 draws is indeed the longest in the History for this trplet- this I name Max.Historic Overdue for a single appearance(of a single number),here "maximal" for this triplet is already fact,the question is how long will be?
Do you have the stats for the 47 triplets about such an overdues( I mean all the 3 numbers of the triplet overdue together in the main draw), because the curren Max.overdue of the triplet 27,28,29 may become even The Absolute Maximum in the History of UK Lotto .
Interesting that your supposition about 1,23,28 -adding this fact to the
situation makes it even more curious .
I realy find that the top single overdues form
very interesting situation and just controlled how it is
in the draw data of the Lottery 49's twice daily draw.
Controlled the overdues of all the triplets in witch numbers
27,28,29 are involved for appearance of a single number
and BB escluded:
25,26,27-18 draws
26,27,28-23 draws
27,28,29-15 draws
28,29,30-15 draws
29,30,31-19 draws
Just for info the Absolute Historic Overdue is 26 draws
and bellongs to two triplets- 36,37,38 and 47,48,49.
Seen the range in a different lottery from 15 to 23 draws
shows that the current overdue of the numbers 27,28,29
in UK Lotto is a quite long one indeed isn't it?
RE: Four numbers overdue over 20 draws - Frank - 02-11-2011 08:30 AM
I think we are going to have to agree to differ, I just don't understand your logic at all. In fact I don't actually understand you.
27,28,29 was last drawn at draw 1310. Many Other triplets are much older and some have never been drawn. So theres nothing special about 27,28,29 in the lotto at least.
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RE: Four numbers overdue over 20 draws - ido - 02-12-2011 01:31 AM
(02-11-2011 08:30 AM)Frank Wrote: I think we are going to have to agree to differ, I just don't understand your logic at all. In fact I don't actually understand you.Hi Frank,
I'd try different way.
We use expressing the predicts like this...."any 2 from...",or .."anyone and any 2 from that 5 numbers"
What I noticed is that the last 20 draws is the longest period in whitch
since the Lotto start none 1 number from 27,28,29 has been drawn
as a main number(it logically means none 2 and none 3 as well).
In the past such an absence in the main draw 2 times happenned for 13 draws ,means that till now the Max.Historic overdue of the triplet 27,28,29
for an appearance of a single number in the main draw was 13 draws and that the New Max.Historic overdue of that same triplet is in course.
I posted maybe in wrong area ,such a statistic is more close to the
HotPicks question,but the draw data for both Lotteries is unique.
Concentrate on this-the global frequence of the 3 possible pairs from
27,28,29 is 60 times or on average any 26.3 draws ....now we have
20 draws without even a single number from this group of 3 numbers.
Other fact-often in a period of over 10 draws overdue of 3 consequtive numbers from the rest numbers of the extended consequtive septupt hit a pair or treble and this may be exploited like a small predicting trick:
25,26,27,28,29,30,31
Rest of the septupt -25,26,30,31
Draw 1576 (numbers 27,28,29 have already 17 draws overdue
together)_47,5,30,36,25,20_BB 15
I'l be not surprised if from this 7 number will hit a treble in a short time
and consider probable the appearance of a pair from 27,28,29 as next
first appearance after the overdue(and as a triplet appeared ones
only,who knows...).
RE: Four numbers overdue over 20 draws - Frank - 02-13-2011 10:40 PM
(02-12-2011 01:31 AM)ido Wrote:(02-11-2011 08:30 AM)Frank Wrote: I think we are going to have to agree to differ, I just don't understand your logic at all. In fact I don't actually understand you.Hi Frank,
I'd try different way.
We use expressing the predicts like this...."any 2 from...",or .."anyone and any 2 from that 5 numbers"
What I noticed is that the last 20 draws is the longest period in whitch
since the Lotto start none 1 number from 27,28,29 has been drawn
as a main number(it logically means none 2 and none 3 as well).
In the past such an absence in the main draw 2 times happenned for 13 draws ,means that till now the Max.Historic overdue of the triplet 27,28,29
for an appearance of a single number in the main draw was 13 draws and that the New Max.Historic overdue of that same triplet is in course.
I posted maybe in wrong area ,such a statistic is more close to the
HotPicks question,but the draw data for both Lotteries is unique.
Concentrate on this-the global frequence of the 3 possible pairs from
27,28,29 is 60 times or on average any 26.3 draws ....now we have
20 draws without even a single number from this group of 3 numbers.
Other fact-often in a period of over 10 draws overdue of 3 consequtive numbers from the rest numbers of the extended consequtive septupt hit a pair or treble and this may be exploited like a small predicting trick:
25,26,27,28,29,30,31
Rest of the septupt -25,26,30,31
Draw 1576 (numbers 27,28,29 have already 17 draws overdue
together)_47,5,30,36,25,20_BB 15
I'l be not surprised if from this 7 number will hit a treble in a short time
and consider probable the appearance of a pair from 27,28,29 as next
first appearance after the overdue(and as a triplet appeared ones
only,who knows...).
Well 27 and 28 have been drawn now (Thank God) , which makes this academic. Just as well as I'm still not on your wavelength and don't think I ever will be.
